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PLEASE help me on these 2 problems!!

 

 Apr 3, 2016

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Took me a while and I don't think I have the easiest method, but I've got an answer for question 2.

Let angle ABC (and all angles equal to it) be α

This allows us to make some deductions:

1)  angle AEB = 180°-α (supplementary to angle CED), and angle BAE = 180°-2α (sum of angles in isoceles triangle ABC), implies that angle ABE = 180°-(180°+α+180°-2α) = 3α-180° (sum of angles in triangle ABE), implies that angle CBD = α-(3α-180°) = 180°-2α (adjecent to angle ABE)

2) DE = 8-2 = 6 (isosceles triangle BCE)

3) if angle ABC = angle CDE and angle ACB = angle DCE, triangles ABC and CDE are similar

 

Using deduction 1, figure out the length of CD in terms of α using the cosine rule.

CD2=BD2+BC22×BD×BC×cos(CBD)

CD2=22+822×2×8×cos(180°2α)

CD=68+32cos(2α)

CD = EC (isoceles triangle CDE)

 

Using deduction 2, apply the cosine rule to triangle CDE to find a value for α (if you have a fear of long or ugly equations, look away now).

DE2=CD2+CE22×CD×CE×cos(DCE)

62=68+32cos(2α)2+68+32cos(2α)22×68+32cos(2α)×68+32cos(2α)×cos(180°2α)

0=100+64cos(2α)+200cos(2α)+64cos2(2α)

Then solve the quadratic however you want (graph, formula, PlySmlt2)

cos(2α)=0.625

α=64.341°

Use this value to find the length of CE and CD.

CD=68+32cos(2α)

CD=68+32cos(2×64.341°)

CD=6.9282

 

Using deduction 3, find the length of AB with similar triangle rules.

DEBC=ECAB

68=6.9282AB

AB=9.24

 

Feel free to ask if any of my thinking is unclear or I've made a mistake.

 Apr 5, 2016
edited by Will85237  Apr 5, 2016
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Since AT bisects <CAB

then    <CAT = <BAT = 30 degrees

<ABT=45 degrees

<ATC=75 degrees  exterior angle of a triangle = the sum of the 2 interior opposite angle.

<ACT =75 degrees  angle sum of triangle ACT

 

Now since <ACT=<ATC,  triangle ACT is isosceles and AC=AT=24 units

 

Now use sine rule to find AB

ABsin75=24sin45AB=24sin75sin45

 

AB= 24*sin(75)/sin(45) = 32.784609690803231

 

area=0.52432.7846sin(60)

 

0.5*24*32.7846*sin(60) = 340.7075574347631168

 

Area triangle ABC = 340.7 units^2        (1dp)

 Apr 3, 2016
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For the second question, begin by deducing the length of DE, and then, from the triangles DEC and BEC, calculate two expressions for the length of CE.

Equate them and that gets you the cosine of the common angle.

 Apr 5, 2016
 #3
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Best Answer

Took me a while and I don't think I have the easiest method, but I've got an answer for question 2.

Let angle ABC (and all angles equal to it) be α

This allows us to make some deductions:

1)  angle AEB = 180°-α (supplementary to angle CED), and angle BAE = 180°-2α (sum of angles in isoceles triangle ABC), implies that angle ABE = 180°-(180°+α+180°-2α) = 3α-180° (sum of angles in triangle ABE), implies that angle CBD = α-(3α-180°) = 180°-2α (adjecent to angle ABE)

2) DE = 8-2 = 6 (isosceles triangle BCE)

3) if angle ABC = angle CDE and angle ACB = angle DCE, triangles ABC and CDE are similar

 

Using deduction 1, figure out the length of CD in terms of α using the cosine rule.

CD2=BD2+BC22×BD×BC×cos(CBD)

CD2=22+822×2×8×cos(180°2α)

CD=68+32cos(2α)

CD = EC (isoceles triangle CDE)

 

Using deduction 2, apply the cosine rule to triangle CDE to find a value for α (if you have a fear of long or ugly equations, look away now).

DE2=CD2+CE22×CD×CE×cos(DCE)

62=68+32cos(2α)2+68+32cos(2α)22×68+32cos(2α)×68+32cos(2α)×cos(180°2α)

0=100+64cos(2α)+200cos(2α)+64cos2(2α)

Then solve the quadratic however you want (graph, formula, PlySmlt2)

cos(2α)=0.625

α=64.341°

Use this value to find the length of CE and CD.

CD=68+32cos(2α)

CD=68+32cos(2×64.341°)

CD=6.9282

 

Using deduction 3, find the length of AB with similar triangle rules.

DEBC=ECAB

68=6.9282AB

AB=9.24

 

Feel free to ask if any of my thinking is unclear or I've made a mistake.

Will85237 Apr 5, 2016
edited by Will85237  Apr 5, 2016
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Thanks Will that is great :))

I was so busy looking ahead that I did not even notice that EBC was an isosceles triangle   blush

So I didn'[t even get off the ground  :)

Melody  Apr 5, 2016
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Because we have isosceles triangle: Let ¯CE=¯CD=yLet ¯AB=¯AC=x¯BC=¯BE=8¯BD=2¯DE=¯BE¯BD=82=6

 

Let ABC=ACB=DEC=CDE=α

 

Because we have a isosceles triangle: cos(BCA)=¯BC2¯ACcos(α)=82xcos(α)=4xx=4cos(α)|x=¯AB

 

Because we have a isosceles triangle(BEC): (1)¯CE2=¯BE2+¯BC22¯BE¯BCcos(EBC)y2=82+82288cos(1802α)y2=128128cos(1802α)y2=128+128cos(2α)In triangle(BDC): (2)¯CD2=¯BD2+¯BC22¯BD¯BCcos(EBC)y2=22+82228cos(1802α)y2=6832cos(1802α)y2=68+32cos(2α)(1)=(2):128+128cos(2α)=68+32cos(2α)(12832)cos(2α)=6812896cos(2α)=60cos(2α)=6096cos(2α)=58|arccos()2α=arccos(58)2α=arccos(0.625)2α=128.682187453α=64.3410937267

 

 

x=4cos(α)|x=¯ABx=4cos(64.3410937267)x=9.23760430703

 


¯AB=9.23760430703

 

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 Apr 5, 2016
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Very nice work to all involved, here !!!!

 

 

 

cool cool cool

 Apr 5, 2016
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Here's another approach to (2)

 

Let the four equal angles in the question  = a

 

Since  < DEC = <  ACB  , then EB = BC

 

And EB = BD + DE   =  8    so....

 

8  = 2 + DE    →   DE  = 6

 

And <  ECD   = 180 - 2a

 

So....using the Law of Sines, we have :

 

sin DEC / DC  = sin ECD / 6

 

sin (a) / DC =  sin(180- 2a)/ 6

 

sin(a) / DC = sin(2a)/ 6

 

sin(a)/DC  = [2sin(a)cos(a)] / 6

 

DC /sin(a)  =  6 / [2sin(a)cos(a)]

 

DC = 6sin(a) / [ 2sin(a)cos(a)]

 

DC = 3sec(a)= EC

 

And using the  Law of Cosines, we have :

 

(DC)^2  = 2^2 + 8^2 - (2)(16)cos(DBC)

 

(3sec(a))^2  = 2^2 + 8^2 - (2)(16)cos(DBC)

 

cos(DBC) = [9sec^2(a) -  68] / [-32]      (1)

 

And applying it again, we have :

 

(EC)^2  = 2^2 + 8^2 - (2)(16)cos(DBC)

 

(3sec(a))^2  = 8^2 + 8^2 - 2(64)cos(DBC)

 

cos(DBC) =  [ 9sec(a)^2 - 128] / [-128]    (2)

 

Equate (1), (2)

 

[9sec^2(a) -  68] / [-32]  = [(9sec(a)^2 - 128] / [-128]

 

4[ 9sec^2(a) - 68]  = 9sec^2(a) - 128

 

36sec^2(a) - 272  = 9sec^2(a) - 128

 

27sec^2(a) = 144

 

sec^2(a)  = 144/27  =  16/3

 

cos^2(a)  = 3/16

 

cos(a)  = sqrt(3/16)

 

arccos(sqrt(3)/4) = a = 64.34°  = m< ACB

 

So m< BAC = [180 - 2a] = [180 - 2(64.34)]  ≈  51.32°

 

And using the Law of Sines once more, we have that :

 

AB/sin(ACB)  =   BC/ sin(BAC)

 

AB /sin(64.34) = 8/ sin(51.32}

 

AB = 8*sin(64.34)/sin(51.32)  = about 9.237

 

 

 

cool cool cool

 Apr 5, 2016
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Thanks Will, Heureka and Chris,

You have all given great answers :)

 Apr 6, 2016
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I have another method for the second question.  I found the exact answer and used no trig.

 

As others have already shown, triangle BEC is isosceles so BE=BC=8

DE=8-2=6 units.

 

Let angle ECD= alpha

 

It follows that in triangle BCD

< BCD = theta-alpha

< CDB =180-theta

< DBC = alpha

 

Now consider triangle ABE

<ABE = theta-alpha

<BEA=180-theta

<EAB = alpha

 

so 

Triangle BCD is similar to triangle ABE       (3 equal angles)

Hence

ABBE=BCDCAB8=8DCAB=64DC

 

Also triangle ABC and triangle CED are both isosceles triangles with base angles of theta degrees so they are also similar.

so

ABBC=DCDEAB8=DC6AB=4DC3 so 64DC=4DC36434=DC2DC=832DC=43units

 

AB=64DCAB=6443AB=163AB=1633units AB9.2376units

 Apr 8, 2016
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Very  impressive, Melody      !!!!!!

 

 

 

cool cool cool

 Apr 8, 2016
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Thanks Chris :)

 Apr 9, 2016

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