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x=1/(3*e^x)

 

solve for x (or give an interval that satisfies the equation)

 Apr 8, 2016

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Here's another way to approach this question:

 

The equation can be written as 3x = e-x

 

e-x can be written as a series: 1 - x + x2/2 - x3/6 + x4/24 - x5/120 + ...

 

So 3x = e-x can be written as 3x = 1 - x + x2/2 - x3/6 + x4/24 - x5/120 + ...

 

Subtract 3x from both sides to get  0 = 1 - 4x + x2/2 - x3/6 + x4/24 - x5/120 + ...

 

Now approximate this by  0 ≈ 1 - 4x0  so that x0 ≈ 0.25  

 

Take the next term to get   0 ≈ 1 - 4x1 + x12/2   Solve this to get x1 ≈ 0.258  (ignoring the other solution which is bigger than 1, so the series would diverge, and is clearly not a solution to the original equation).

 

The true solution lies between 0.25 and 0.258  (the question allows for an interval as a solution!).

 

It is easy enough to take higher order approximations numerically to tighhten the interval if required.

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 Apr 8, 2016
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x=(3*ex)-1

1/x=3*ex

1/3x=ex

ln(1/3x) = x

-ln(3)-ln(x)=x
-ln(3) = x + ln(x)

-(log(3)/log(e))=-1.0986122886681098 = x + ln(x)

This is a hard problem, I hope I may have given you enough to solve it, but I forget how to do this kind of thing.

 Apr 8, 2016
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x=1/(3*e^x)


The real value can be obtained either through graphing or interpolation. My calculator gives a value of x=0.2576276530.......through interpolation.

 Apr 8, 2016
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Here's a graphical solution : https://www.desmos.com/calculator/c0vu5ffqbv

 

It  occurs  at about  x = 0.189

 

 

 

cool cool cool

 Apr 8, 2016
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CPhill: The figure of .189 does not appear to balance the equation? The figure that I obtained, x=0.2576276530, does to a dozen decimal places.

 Apr 8, 2016
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Sorry......I typed the wrong function into Desmos......Guest 2  is correct.....the answer occurs at about x = 0.258

 

Here's the correct graph ........https://www.desmos.com/calculator/t9ttiydcve

 

 

 

cool cool cool

 Apr 8, 2016
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x=1/(3*e^x)

solve for x (or give an interval that satisfies the equation)

 

We use the product log function, also called Lambert W-Function:

If the function is xex=z, then x=W(z)

 

x=13ex|exxex=13x=W(13)

 

 

x=0.257627653049736704282916201626097790909692647503204491533

 

laugh

 Apr 8, 2016
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Best Answer

Here's another way to approach this question:

 

The equation can be written as 3x = e-x

 

e-x can be written as a series: 1 - x + x2/2 - x3/6 + x4/24 - x5/120 + ...

 

So 3x = e-x can be written as 3x = 1 - x + x2/2 - x3/6 + x4/24 - x5/120 + ...

 

Subtract 3x from both sides to get  0 = 1 - 4x + x2/2 - x3/6 + x4/24 - x5/120 + ...

 

Now approximate this by  0 ≈ 1 - 4x0  so that x0 ≈ 0.25  

 

Take the next term to get   0 ≈ 1 - 4x1 + x12/2   Solve this to get x1 ≈ 0.258  (ignoring the other solution which is bigger than 1, so the series would diverge, and is clearly not a solution to the original equation).

 

The true solution lies between 0.25 and 0.258  (the question allows for an interval as a solution!).

 

It is easy enough to take higher order approximations numerically to tighhten the interval if required.

.

Alan Apr 8, 2016
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Nice, Alan  !!!!

 

 

cool cool cool

 Apr 8, 2016

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