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Please help me with this sumation problem, I don't even know where to start with this...

 Feb 10, 2022
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This is a reapeat question.  You should have sent us with a link, to the original.

Never mind, I do not think you got any answers there.

 

I played with this for quite a while when you first posted it.

I rarely know the short cuts for complex numbes.

All I could thinkg of doing was getting the 7 answers and adding them up.

If it hadn't been over 1 this would not have been so bad but being over 1 definitely added to the messiness and length of it.

 

The first obvious z value is   e^(pi *i)     the general z solution is   e^(pi*i -  n*2pi/7)     for n=0 to 6

As shown in the complex plane pic below.

 

z   1+z|1+z|^2 
eπicos(π)+isin(π) -1+000 
e(5πi7)cos(5π7)+isin(5π7)3rd quadcos(2π7)isin(2π7)[1cos(2π7)]isin(2π7)[1cos(2π7)]2+sin2(2π7)[12cos(2π7)]
e(3πi7)cos(3π7)+isin(3π7)4th quadcos(3π7)isin(3π7)[1+cos(3π7)]isin(3π7)[1cos(3π7)]2+sin2(3π7)[12cos(3π7)]
e(πi7)cos(1π7)+isin(1π7)4th quadcos(π7)isin(π7)[1+cos(π7)]isin(π7)[1+cos(π7)]2+sin2(π7)[1+2cos(π7)]
e(πi7)cos(1π7)+isin(1π7)1st quadcos(1π7)+isin(1π7)[1+cos(π7)]isin(π7)[1+cos(3π7)]2+sin2(3π7)[1+2cos(3π7)]
e(3πi7)cos(3π7)+isin(3π7)1st quadcos(3π7)+isin(3π7)[1+cos(3π7)]+isin(3π7)[1+cos(3π7)]2+sin2(3π7)[1+2cos(3π7)]
e(5πi7)cos(5π7)+isin(5π7)2nd quadcos(2π7)+isin(2π7)[1cos(2π7)]+isin(2π7)[1cos(2π7)]2+sin2(2π7)[12cos(2π7)]

 

 

I'm saving now so that I don't lose it.   But I am still going.  I am sure this is the most rediculous way anyone has ever done it ://

 

 

 Feb 10, 2022
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Continued,

 

the end of my table got truncated :/

 

The entries were

 

 1/|1+z^2|
0undefined. Can't divide by 0
12cos(2π7) 
1+2cos(3π7) 
1+2cos(π7) 
1+2cos(π7) 
1+2cos(3π7) 
12cos(2π7) 

 

 

 

So after all that unnecessary work. 

I get that the sum is undefined becasue the first term in the sum is undefined.

 

Please give feed back on whether the answer is simply undefined.  OR on how I should have done it. 

Thanks.

 Feb 10, 2022
edited by Melody  Feb 10, 2022
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It's 1 - z, not 1 + z isn't it ? That removes the undefined term.

Tiggsy  Feb 11, 2022
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Bummer,  you are right Tiggsy!

 

Do you knopw how to do this an easier way?

Melody  Feb 11, 2022
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Wow! That was very detailed and complicated! Maybe leaving out undefined in the sum is the answer. And the answer to the problem is in the formatting of a fraction, so the answer to the problem shouldn't have any imaginary numbers.

 

Thank you... smiley

 Feb 10, 2022
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1-z|1-z|^2   
1--1 = 24   
[1+cos(2π7)]+isin(2π7)1+2cos(2π7)   
[1cos(3π7)]+isin(3π7)12cos(3π7)   
[1cos(π7)]+isin(π7)12cos(π7)   
[1cos(π7)]isin(π7)12cos(π7)   
[1cos(3π7)]isin(3π7)12cos(3π7)   
[1+cos(2π7)]isin(2π7)1+2cos(2π7)   
     

 

sum=14+21+2cos2π7+212cos3π7+212cosπ7 sum8.3478346790362325

 

 

 

2/(1+2cos(2pi/7)) = 0.8900837358250465

2/(1-2cos(3pi/7)) = 3.603875471605593

2/(1-2cos(pi/7) = -2.493959207437541

0.25+0.8900837358250465+3.603875471605593+3.603875471605593 = 8.3478346790362325

 Feb 11, 2022
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Ok Tiggsy I have an answer  wink

 

Can you please show us how to do it properly now :))

 Feb 11, 2022
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Hi Melody.

 

My method is pretty much the same as yours, though I did arrive at a different result, and I do have a suggestion for taking it further.

 

If z7=1=1.cis(π),thenz={1.cis(π+2kπ)}1/7=cis(π/7+2kπ/7),k=0,1,2,,6.

 

Now, if

 z=cos(θ)+isin(θ), then1z=1cos(θ)isin(θ) so1z2=(1cos(θ))2+sin2(θ)=22cos(θ)=2(1cos(θ)).

 

Then, using the trig identity cos2A=12sin2A,

1z2=4sin2(θ/2).

 

So,

z11z2=14{1sin2(π/14)+1sin2(3π/14)++1sin2(13π/14)}.

 

Summing the terms inside the curly bracket gets you the number 49.

That's just too much of a coincidence, 49 being 7 squared.

I checked it out for z^3 = -1 and z^5 = -1 and the results were 9 and 25.

So, it would seem that this is a standard result, one the I don't recall seeing before, and for the moment don't see how to prove.

I'll see if I can take it further

 

Tiggsy

 Feb 12, 2022
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Thanks Tiggsy

I can follow all that.  Similar to mine just better :))

 

z11z2=14{1sin2(π/14)+1sin2(3π/14)++1sin2(13π/14)}. z11z2=14{2sin2(π/14)+2sin2(3π/14)+2sin2(5π/14)+1sin2(π/2)}. z11z2=14{2sin2(π/14)+2sin2(3π/14)+2sin2(5π/14)+1}. z11z2=14+12{1sin2(π/14)+1sin2(3π/14)+1sin2(5π/14)}. z11z2=14+12{24}. z11z2=12.25

 

 

 

 

 

 

LaTex

\displaystyle \sum_{z}\frac{1}{\mid 1-z\mid^{2}}
=\frac{1}{4}\left\{\frac{1}{\sin^{2}(\pi/14)} +\frac{1}{\sin^{2}(3\pi/14)}+\dots +\frac{1}{\sin^{2}(13\pi/14)}\right\}.\\~\\
\displaystyle \sum_{z}\frac{1}{\mid 1-z\mid^{2}}
=\frac{1}{4}\left\{\frac{2}{\sin^{2}(\pi/14)} +\frac{2}{\sin^{2}(3\pi/14)}+\frac{2}{\sin^{2}(5\pi/14)}+\frac{1}{\sin^{2}(\pi/2)}
\right\}.\\~\\
\displaystyle \sum_{z}\frac{1}{\mid 1-z\mid^{2}}
=\frac{1}{4}\left\{\frac{2}{\sin^{2}(\pi/14)} +\frac{2}{\sin^{2}(3\pi/14)}+\frac{2}{\sin^{2}(5\pi/14)}+1
\right\}.\\~\\
\displaystyle \sum_{z}\frac{1}{\mid 1-z\mid^{2}}
=\frac{1}{4}+\frac{1}{2}\left\{\frac{1}{\sin^{2}(\pi/14)} +\frac{1}{\sin^{2}(3\pi/14)}+\frac{1}{\sin^{2}(5\pi/14)}
\right\}.\\~\\

\displaystyle \sum_{z}\frac{1}{\mid 1-z\mid^{2}}
=\frac{1}{4}+\frac{1}{2}\left\{24
\right\}.\\~\\

\displaystyle \sum_{z}\frac{1}{\mid 1-z\mid^{2}}=12.25

 Feb 13, 2022

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